Slide action is terrific. This list is not correct for Conn saxophones (see Conn Woodwind Serial Numbers) or Conn bugles (see Pan American Brass Serial Numbers). The 16M is a .509" bore instrument with an open neck pipe. This horn is nearly new. Quality horn that plays great. Here is a nice workhorse Bach LT16M trombone. This one appears to have been relacquered, but probably year ago judging from the patina in the lacquer. Cosmetically some of the original lacquer is worn or ugly but overall the instrument is in good condition with no signs of poor repairs over the years. Slide had some pitting on the contact points that has been relacquered. I believe it means that this horn was a special order, or perhaps a prototype design handmade by the expert trombone builder at Conn just before WWII. Includes the original case. This one was originally put together for Bob Sanders. He's used the horn until recently and the miles show on it. This is an original C trumpet in fabulous condition with what appears to be the original lacquer. This one is totally stock! It's roughly a Williams 4 sized horn, around a .485" bore. The crown jewel of any trombone collection, this is the original Conn Contrabass Trombone, circa 1901… yes, 115 years old! Instrument is in excellent condition, slide it top notch and cosmetically very clean. Includes on leadpipe and lexan valve cap. This one has been floating around Los Angeles for the past 15 years and is well known here for being a truly impressive instrument. $1200 with case SOLD, Here is a nice handmade sackbut by Ronald Collier from the early 1980s, based on the wide bore model from Meinl & Lauber. They have wonderful sounds and offer a great amount of versatility. Original Advertisements. One of the most exciting new alto trombones on the market, designed and built by the masters at M&W Trombones in Wisconsin. SOLD. I will part it out. This one is interesting, in that it seems to have the original lightweight slide, but not in nickel but gold brass rather. Rick did the Minick style open wrap F and D trigger and converted the triggers. $1000 with reunion blues leather gig bag. I find the sound to be bright and colorful and the response point is deep in the horn. Killer playing trombone. It has the rare stock Eb 2nd valve slide (most came with an E). sold, Beautiful recording model King euphonium with 4 side action piston valves. ON TRIAL, This is a custom made slide made at the Conn factory. Cornets. New uninstalled tubes are included and can be installed upon request, Up for sale, a very rare Bach Mt Vernon 42B large tenor trombone with gold brass bell. This particular instrument is one of those instruments. It's the pro select model from Steve Shires in Massachusetts. No mouthpiece included, but I can acquire a Van Der Heide mouthpiece for an extra cost. $1650, I might be in love with this bass trombone... it has all of my favorite things going for it. REDUCED $1700 with case, Another rare trombone, this is a Larry Minick alto trombone in Eb, made in the 1980s. Used, Conn 4H ( ARTIST SPECIAL ) Elkhart Circa. Made in the late 1970s, there are only a handful of these top tier jazz trombones in existence. Original case included, $2950, I just love the patina on this horn! The model 8 (and subsequent model 9) was Earl's largest tenor model. The slide is set up for removable lead pipes and comes with two. Mated with this bell section is a gold brass tuning slide. This is a fabulous contrabass trombone made by a legendary maker. Along with Egger, Ewald Meinl makes some of the very best historical reproductions in the world. Starting with a single valve Olds George Roberts model bass trombone, Streucel added the inline 2nd G valve in the 1960s. 2nd valve tuning slides for both G and Gb are included. In excellent shape with a few small pings. It was made at the New York factory and has the "67" stamp on the bell. $4200 without case SOLD. $2500 SOLD. The one piece bell is a 7.04" flare with a gorgeous darkened patina inside the bell. A very responsive and excellent playing 88H. This Greenhoe Custom model has a standard weight red brass Conn style bell, tuning in the slide (TIS), Greenhoe slide crook in nickel silver, inline Greenhoe valves in Bb/F/D/Gb. Bell has been cut by John Mason. SOLD. Byers played trombone for Buddy Rich, Benny Goodman, Quincy Jones as well as arranging many of the charts for Count Basie and many others. Some minor lacquer wear from use. This alto was designed starting with the original Glassl alto trombone, but making it improved with a 7th position, better partial slotting and intonation. We can polish it up an lacquer it for you, or leave it as it is. Maybe the best sousaphone ever made. I don't recall why, but doesn't affect the horn playability. The original Besson hardcase is included, along with the fabric storage bag. This one includes the original coffin case. This is also a nice trombone for people who travel often and need a small instrument to bring along to keep chops in shape. Robb Stewart replaced the inner slide tubes with exact modern replicas and the slide action is great, especially for a horn of this age and with the extra weight from the TIS (tuning in slide) mechanism. Thin red brass bell, red brass seamed back bow, gold brass outer tubes. The bell is slightly beefier than other 2Bs, giving it a very strong sound and blow. These are great medium bore trombones for players that are looking for a big powerful sound but needing a more efficient instrument. No case included. $2900, Josef Lidl has been making brass instruments in the Czech Republic for many years. $500 without case. The J bend tuning slide is prominent in the design and the slide also appears to be custom made. This horn plays incredible! No bell model, but I assume it is a model 7 bell and lead pipe. I'd heard a rumor that a fourth Conn BBb contra was built in the 1920s for use in a touring big band. In very good condition with tight valves and beautiful hand engraved valve caps. This is a single Bb French Horn made by Gebr. Very nice condition with no rot, an excellent playing and sounding Bach Bb cornet. It is unlacquered. Conn 88H Tenor Trombone. It's an early 1950s vintage, deco engraving on the bell (the best 6Hs) and has all brass trim. The original handgrip is included which shows the serial number (worn). The gold lacquer is wearing off in places, but I think that just adds character. A nice player though it needs some love. Price is $3300 with case. Made in Italy by Kalison, this is their model Professional 2000, or a compact 6/4 sized tuba. Would be great for commercial and pit work. SOLD, This is a high end Bb trumpet made by Adams in Holland. This horn also has a gold brass bell, which is a nice feature, as well as a lightweight nickel silver slide. It was discovered two years ago in a basement and I've since had Robb Stewart restore it to both playable and preservable condition. It takes a standard small shank mouthpiece. This is a great playing trombone, extremely versatile. It is a matched set, a 24K gold plated Bach model 43 trumpet and a 24K gold plated Bach flugelhorn. It has recently been cleaned and tuned up and is ready for it's new home. A bargain at SOLD, A very nice Conn 4H in the rare satin silver finish. It's a smaller bore instrument, which was typical of the time, and includes the original mouthpiece, which is a standard small shank taper. Ultra lightly used Greenhoe 88HT-G. It's a beautiful instrument and plays well from top to bottom. ON HOLD, King Herald Trumpet, circa 1970s. Check out the trademark "under the thumb" Mt Vernon trigger mechanism. Plays very good with a strong bass trombone sound, good intonation and slotting. The horn is all original, meaning it has friction fit bell section and the original inners with soldered on slide stockings. This is a great opportunity to buy a fabulous and versatile professional trombone in like new condition from a great price. The string players in your orchestra will love you when you show up with this trombone. Intonation is even and predictable. The 6802 has enjoyed great popularity over the last 10 years, and has earned the nickname "the 8D killer" because of it's similarity to the 8D but also improvements to the original design. It has a screw bell flare that has some small dings from use. I'm a bit biased but I think this is the best Rath trombone I've played. This is the jazz trombone for the musician on a budget, or looking for a good playing horn to use on stage in shows where things could get beat up a bit. It's been cleaned and is ready to go. Featuring a 7.5" lightweight yellow brass bell, a SY1.5 tuning slide, .495" bore lightweight slide. Comes with a Conn case. I think it plays fantastic, I've not tried another .547" tenor that is as versatile as this one. $1850 with case. This orchestral C trumpet was designed using the Chicago Symphony Mt Vernon C trumpet as a model. Comes with a case and mouthpiece. King model 3B with F attachment. 5 rotary valves with mechanical linkage. In good condition with a gorgeous bell. The model 12 has a .500" bore slide. I will admit, it is one of the best playing orchestral Bach 50 bass trombones I've tried (I thought about keeping for myself!). This instrument has been restored and relacquered by Kanstul. The 1570 is based on the Bach 42 and is set up to mimic response and sound of that venerable instrument. An old Wallace Williams trombone from the 1930s, made by Earl Williams in Los Angeles in collaboration with Spike Wallace. $2900 with case. Slide action is good with some very minor pits on the end of the upper stocking. This one is in fantastic shape and has the desirable gold brass slide tubes. Original case is in great shape too. Sale Pending, Email to get on the wait list. This one is in used condition but has been well maintained. I had it cleaned and touched up where I could. Threaded leadpipes and linkage upgrade on the valve. Open low register and fantastic pedal B naturals and Cs. Well… they should be! This particular model was designed in conjunction with trombonist, Paul Weschke, who was one of the most famous German trombonists of the era. It's a great player and hard to find a nice 5 valve model from this vintage in this kind of shape. Price is $800 REDUCED without case, as is. $3400 without case. Since this is an early NY bass trombone, it has a 9" bell and a narrow longer slide. The previous owner had acidic skin and the horn is worn as a result on the contact points. These 32Hs are great instruments and work well for all types of playing. This is not an alto for the faint of heart, as it will also bite you the second you lose your focus or alter your embouchure in any way. The model 34 is the cooler underground cousin to the ubiquitous model 36… it has a .522" slide with an 8" bell flare. Its quite an experience to play an instrument like this one, you never get bored. The restoration work was well done with only some rippling on the contact point on the hand slide from pitting under the lacquer. $1500 with case. $3000, Top of the line tenor trombone from Courtois (Made in Germany) designed with Weston Sprott of the Metropolitan Opera. $1200 SOLD, Up for sale, a beautiful custom King 3B plus with removable F attachment. You can still be a hipster with this bass and get the nods from the trombonists in the know. It works well in a variety of playing situations: big band, combo, commercial studio, band etc. Overall in very nice condition, showing some contact wear (it is raw brass). I've recently had this horn restored by my repairman and friend, Brad Close. The case is not original but a replica of the original. Tubes are all in good shape and seem to be original. Playing wise, it's on the smaller side, 7" bell and probably a .485" slide. REDUCED $525. SOLD, Here is an Earl Williams trombone, model 7, .500" slide without F attachment, 8" bell. Overall in very good condition, some minor wear on the inners. $2300 with wolf pack gig bag. The slide is clean and has fast action. This bass is in excellent condition and is quite an excellent playing instrument. While this is an intermediate horn, it plays very well and is in a hard to find size. Early production serial 9xx. The disk base allows for a stable platform that won't tip over. Barry mated this bell flare to an Elkhart Conn 78H neck pipe and slide and made a killer instrument in the process. Based on the Carl Geyer design, it features an inline valve block and open wrap tubing with a medium sized bell. It has a fixed yellow brass bell and has the large tapered flare. $2900, Here's a beautiful playing Bach Mt Vernon model 12 trombone, with a lightened slide (work done in the 1970s by a tech in San Francisco). $1100 with case, Professional Jupiter Jazzer trombone, previously owned by Alex Iles. Sounds pristine and clear and is top notch craftsmanship. This one was well used, my repairman Brad Close restored it and I think it came out quite well! It has an 8.5" bell, .522" wide slide, curved hand grip, curved bell braces and famous Williams water key. I love the sterling silver snakes on the tuning slide, ultra classy. In excellent lightly used condition. In all seriousness, this is a great all around BBb tuba that is easy to play, has great intonation and is well made. The trubore valve offers a straight airflow on the open side of the horn and a gentle swoop of the tubes for the F attachment side, one of the best and most even blowing valves on the market. The valves are clearly from a Holton TR180, the slide also Holton, likely the same original donor horn. Original case in great shape. There is nothing the 32H can't handle This one has been well used, but has all the features that make it a desirable vintage. Plays great, but I don't need to tell you all that. This one has a lot of life left in it. Pics speak for themselves on this one, which has seen many battles and begs to be played and loved. The result is an extremely vibrant and flexible Bach style trombone with modern upgrades. The buyer has some options: A very good repairman could fill these cracks with solder to repair the original tube. It is about a year old, has some very minor wear on the handslide grip. This one is in excellent condition and is a good vintage being from the 1960s. Overall in decent shape, a few spots of wear and minor dings/repairs. 1957 Conn 10H Tenor Trombone #696193 with Case. $2800 REDUCED, Here's a nice used Bach model 42 with Greenhoe valve. Sold with a gig bag. Used in the LA area for many years by one of the top professional trumpet players in the area, this is an opportunity for a rare and desirable rotary trumpet. This is another nice example of a vintage 6. Features the larger Marston made rotary valve (same valve on the Mt Vernons) with a closed wrap. Totally a unique instrument. This one has an oddity, the serial number is stamped on the top cork barrel of the slide… I assume that this has been flipped at some point, but I see no evidence other than the stamp being in the wrong place, so it could be from the factory like this. It is a single owner horn and has been stored since purchase. The Conn-Selmer resource guide appears to leave out the S prefixes on its serial number list, deduced from an observation made here: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?158653-Conn-Sax-Serial-number and http://www.trumpetmaster.com/vb/f139/conn-18b-53120-3.html#post555667, http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?158653-Conn-Sax-Serial-number, http://www.trumpetmaster.com/vb/f139/conn-18b-53120-3.html#post555667. The only blem is some acid bleed on the bell rim. The Olds Military model featured a "hammered" finish which is quite unusual. SOLD, Here is a beautiful Elkhart Conn 8H, owned and used by Stuart Dempster. Many of these instruments are well over $10k now, this Yamaha is a top tier professional level geyer style horn in the same league but half the price of some of the boutique makers. The slide is an 81xxx serial number, it has had a recent addition of a nickel silver crook. Original case included. It has a large shank mouthpiece adaptor and .580"-.600" bore. Original Conn red case is included. Silver-plated in nice shape with no wear. $450 sold, This is an unmounted Edwards gold brass bell in thin 18 gauge material. Works great on mic, in the studio, in a live setting, big band or even principal in the orchestra. It has a thin responsive bell with a clear and brilliant sound. Triggers can be split (custom linkages and paddles by Brad for $250 additional). This particular instrument has been well treated and recently had the valve rebuilt by Osmun Music. SOLD, Here is a beautiful Mirafone Model 186 BBb tuba from 1982, lightly used in original condition. Sold as it. It has a .495"/.510" dual bore slide. Whoever gets this will be one lucky person, this is truly top tier rare stuff. Everyone knows that these original Greenhoes are hard to find, and even harder to find a TIS version (I can only speculate that a handful were made) $5200 without case. $3300 REDUCED, The model H283 is the same as the Holton model H183, which is the yellow brass Merker model designed by hornist, Ethel Merker. In fantastic like new condition with the exception of a little acid bleed around the bell rim, this is a Yamaha model 681G .547" orchestral tenor trombone. The horn will be cleaned prior to sale and that should neutralize any future corrosion. I've tested this instrument in a variety of ensembles and have had no problem blending with all makes and models of trombones in many different styles of playing. Plays well with a nice short valve throw. The horn has a .468" bore with a large 12.25" bell with large throat and string linkage valves. Gold brass bell flare and nickel silver slide. A gorgeous instrument. $2750 with case. This is the Slokar model 175, designed specifically to ease intonation and make partial slotting more stable. $2200. $800 as is with protec case. $1000 with case. The slide has been widened to accommodate the Thayer valves and larger necks. It is in very good condition overall and has recently had a good chem cleaning. Solid sound with quick response, lots of dynamic color and easy slotting scale. Slide is good, some minor wear on the chrome but not through it. $550. The professional Yamaha Xeno model 8335RGS Bb trumpet features a gold brass bell with reversed leadpipe, silver plated finish. 3 threaded leadpipes are included in various materials. No wear and gorgeous. A unique opportunity to own one of the early custom made instruments by Marc L'Anglier. This particular horn is in very good condition with some minor surface wear on the contact points. One piece 9.5" gold brass bell. These are high quality instruments and a bargain price. $2100 with case, The Olds Opera was the professional large bore (.554") trombone offered in nickel silver. A very good playing instrument that is free blowing and quick responding. In solos, its an effective trick. Has the rare gold brass outer slide tubes. A flashy trombone that gets a lot of attention. It is in very very good condition with hardly any signs of wear and tear or repairs from abuse. The slide is totally usable as is, but if you're a stickler for smooth as glass slides it will need new inners and probably new outers. Valve tuning is Bb/F/G/Eb. The slide action is fantastic and the mod makes it all the better (the original brace is included for the purist). Besides being an excellent playing instrument, this tuba has a compact wrap that makes it ideal for players looking for a big sounding tuba that's going to be used in small places. Being his backup Williams, this one is in lightly used and all original condition. Minick later modified this trombone with his split trigger system and linkages. There is a lot to like here, and these tubas are in great demand. $1250, King model 2280 four valve euphonium. It has a great blow and sound that is colorful and vibrant with a nice bite. Here's a no frills, vintage Bach 36B. $2750 with case. It also has a trill valve, which is only marginally helpful for trills but spectacular as a half step valve. It slots well and is easy to maneuver throughout the range. Glenn no longer has access to green leather... so this one is a bit rare. This a real vintage old school professional B&S tuba handmade in the original B&S factory. Could be not only a great collectible trombone, but also a piece of playable art. Very responsive bell section, gorgeous singing tone. A near mint condition Shires `` Bonezilla '' which features all of the best brass technician in bass. 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